Wednesday, October 15, 2008

Nutty Sun Editorials

The Sun editorial board has produced its fair share of craptacular editorials over the years. Their latest endeavor however, may take the top prize for its spectacular inanity. The Sun actually defends ACORN, the “community organizers” at the center of voter-registration fraud cases in 13 states. Of course, for the Sun only Republicans are capable of election fraud.

The editorial states, “Last year, ACORN paid a fine to Washington state and agreed to change its procedures after some workers were charged with fraud.”

Frankly, this is like saying Cal Ripken was just some guy who played for the Orioles. While both statements are factually true, they completely understate the proper context.

The fact of the matter is that ACORN committed what Washington Secretary of State, Sam Reed labeled, “worst case of voter-registration fraud in state history.”

In 2006, the feds indicted ACORN workers in Kansas City for submitting multiple applications from the same person and submitting names of dead people.

Just two days ago in Ohio the Cuyahoga County Board of Elections asked the county prosecutor to investigate ACORN for registration fraud.

One of the new voters, Freddie Johnson, 19, of Cleveland, said he signed 73 voter registration forms over a five-month period. In return, ACORN canvassers gave him cigarettes or cash, about $20 in all

ACORN is also under investigation in Nevada.

Investigators also identified a Nevada woman, Roberta Casteel, who had not registered to vote but whose voter-registration application was submitted to the state by ACORN. How, then, did the ACORN workers find her name, driver’s license number and Social Security number? Here’s one clue: Casteel’s purse was stolen last year, she said. Now how would state inmates living in a halfway house know about that?

The Sun, and ACORN defenders respond that ACORN follows sate law by submitting all registration forms it receives, and ACORN says it fires any workers who commit registration fraud. Again—on the surface—this is true. However, ACORN has been involved in these types of cases since 2004. Yet the same ACORN shenanigans keep appearing.

The Sun ends its “argument” by stating:

Real voter fraud - the intentional corruption of the electoral process by a
voter - happens at the polls, not when new voters try to register. So far,
ACORN's accusers haven't come up with convincing evidence to back up their

This is nonsense on stilts. You can't get in the voting booth to fradulently pull the lever unless there is a fradulent registration allowing you into in the booth. What's worse, here in Maryland you wouldn't even need to show fradulent identification matching a fradulent registration to cast a fradulent vote.

Maybe the Sun is just covering for its preferred presidential candidate, who paid ACORN more than $800,000 for GOTV efforts.


AnotherWatcher said...

Has the BS read this document? I doubt it. It lays out pretty clearly what ACORN has been up to.

S. Oakley said...

Watch out for this line of defense. I saw this sprouting up yesterday from a Huffintonpost Article, defending ACORN and claiming registration fraud isn't serious...that what what we should be worried about is voter fraud, of which, of course, Republicans are the only ones committing.

Interesting to see the Baltimore Sun regurgitating arguments from Huffington Post.

Tony Ramagillini said...

If demand side economics doesn't work, why do they call it an economic stimulus check and not a retardant check ?

also, the voter registration fraud problen has been proven to be the result of the actions of a group of rogue republican rebels.

Bigmick said...

When will the Republicans get a clue and demand that multi-state vote fraud be added to the list of crimes in the Federal RICO (Rackateer Influanced Corrupt Organzation) laws?

Saran Anne Jercough said...

it is not voter fraud, it is voter registration misinformation.

Then again you are the same fools that say life begins when the sperm penetrates the eggs ; you are somewhat consistent with your logic.

AnotherWatcher said...

bigmick, see the link on the first post. That lawsuit is a RICO suit.
ACORN is an ongoing criminal enterprise and must be stopped in its "voter" work. It is THE ONLY way we can be assured of the cleanest possible voter base.

AnotherWatcher said...

saran said "it is not voter fraud, it is voter registration misinformation."

What is to stop ANY of these fraudulent registrations from being voted?

What about this for voter fraud?
"An entire houseful of young, non-Ohioan Democrat activists have used the Brownlee Avenue address to register themselves to vote in the Buckeye State and secure absentee ballots under extremely shady circumstances — all while mobilizing a large effort to register thousands of others for absentee and early voting. The activists are leaders of a group called “Vote From Home ‘08.” The group is self-identified as having “extensive experience with political organizing, election administration, and Democratic politics.” They were hailed as the “Justice League” by a Daily Kos blogger. Their Facebook page brags: “Want to turn the Presidential election blue in a key swing state? Vote from Home is a political organization that was founded by a team of young people for the purpose of assisting, aiding, and tracking voters to elect progressive candidates to the White House. Encouraged by the excitement of the 2008 elections and the movement around the Democratic candidates, Vote From Home will be in Ohio seeking to deliver 10,000 votes to Democratic candidates statewide.”"

AnotherWatcher said...

saran, read the groups OWN website. It is blatant fraud.

"In October of 2006, a committee of the Ohio Senate approved a bill (H.B. 234) that will fundamentally change the nature of early voting in Ohio. According to the bill, Ohioans no longer need to provide an excuse for voting absentee. This means that any Ohioan can vote early (up to 29 days in advance) in this year's election and avoid the long lines that prevented many Ohioan voters from voting in 2004. A change such as this requires an immediate response in get out the vote (GOTV) strategies and offers an opportunity for increasing voter turnout."
"Our goal is to secure 10,000 early votes before Election Day."
"2) VFH is a straightforward concept. If executed well in one state, it could be replicated in other states with similar voting laws."

Fear Us said...

you people are just frightened that the right has been silenced by the correct.

Amhed Rasagi said...

My friends, we hear a lot about that poor plumber that makes about 275k/ yr. He will be forced to lay-off workers, and feels cheated for working hard for what he has. But NO my friends, he will make more, his customer base will increase. As he passes off his tax increase to the masses, they will try to do their own plumbing, many will learn to do it correctly, but many will screw everything up forcing them to call a plumber with an expensive repair.

Don't let these plumbers fool you. No one really wants to roll around in poop , and he will lose nothing.

Bruce Godfrey said...

Actually, Mark, the Sun's statement is exactly correct. It's exactly correct. Filing the same registration doesn't get you 72 votes; what it gets a dishonest field operative is a faked work volume to cover a day of goldbricking.

The problem with signature petition/registration efforts is "clipboard hustling" - by the field workers of their payors. When I was Treasurer of the Maryland Libertarian Party and we had to go through the signature petition business quadriennially, we hired itinerant hustlers, guys who make money travelling the country, working a little here and there.

They came reasonably well vetted from other states' LPs, but when we looked at the signatures, it was pretty obvious we had been hustled. We didn't have proof, but it was pretty clear. Maybe 70% of the sigs were bona fide (meaning they had signers other than the collector, regardless of whether the signer was signing "Mickey Mouse.")

Now who's easier to hustle: a cold-blooded criminal defense attorney like me or some goo-goo eyed ACORN volunteer from the suburbs working with these clowns? Why would ACORN pay for signatures that it cannot turn into reasonably likely votes on election day? Registrations do not equal votes, and I suspect that ACORN got hustled by clipboard hustlers, until someone can show me real proof, not just an indictment. Half-way decent prosecutor can indict a ham sandwich.

Wind River said...

To defend ACORN in their ongoing criminal enterprise as this Bruce character has done, is to totally remove yourself from reality. The next stop is Spring Grove.

Wind River said...

Now that I have read this Bruce characters whole post and I see he is a part of the problem and not the solution as a criminal defense prostitute, it is all clear now.
He needs a conviction and not hundreds of verifiable incidents of fraud being perpetrated. A conviction here and there is not enough.
Hey Bruce, did you read the suit anotherwatcher linked in the first post? You are a bottom fishing cda. What do you think of the RICO suit? Read it and get back to us.
Here it is again for your convenience.

Daniel said...

Fear Us:

Who are you calling "you people"?

fear us said...

you people are Red Marylanders.

I hope you can join the rest of us and be real patriots

Insider Bob said...

Bitter Old man v. Cool Hand Luke

McCain Obama

Ladies and gentlemen the New President of the United States will be Barack Hussein ( that's right)

Daniel said...

Guess again.

warpmine said...

The solution is simple. After the conviction of ACORN and the like, outlaw these groups and force those that really want to vote to actually do the leg work and fill out the necessary info with the required documentation. If not stay home and keep to yourself.

On the other hand do we want an electorate that is do damn stupid that they can't fill and file the forms? It can only lead to an electorate that doesn't understand the issues for the get go